New Server Announced
By Colt45 on Jul 16, 2008 in Miscellaneous
Hello this is Colt45. For a while now the Oatman and I (with lots of advice from Reaper himself!) have been working on a new server. Below is a general picture of what our server will be based on:
Server Details:
- One (1) Realm (we hope to add more as the server grows)
- Blizzlike server (normal experience rates, drop rates, level cap set to seventy (70), etc.)
- Start at level one (1) like on most blizzlike servers :P
- We hope to be a lag-free server (with minimum down time also)
- Custom items, creatures, quests will be added and tested to work 100% before server opens!
- We hope to have scripted instances, quests, etc. (cannot guarantee)!
- Custom features (we cannot list any until we are sure that they will work)!
- Custom Events (this will be my favorite and if we are lucky we may be able to get the events scripted!)
- New spells (I hope to be able to add at least three (3) new spells for each class, but they will not all be just level seventy (70) spells either)!
- New Zones (Yes we plan to add custom zones, with maybe new quests and items)
So basically what we are looking at is a BLIZZLIKE server with a few added things to make it more enjoyable. Post your replies to let us know what you think and let us know of some REASONABLE ideas you may have (no items please)! The name will not be released for time being as we are not 100% that the server will ever be up.
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Hmm sounds good... on a little other note I fixed the customs vendors to complete with all gear I also created a few other vendors for the Brutal gear and such, getting the Priest gear added took awhile but it is now all useable hince the problem I do not have a spot to post it can I get your email so I can send it and you can post????
This server is being under alot of hardwork and management. The reason for this is we want a server up that will show you all prereleases as well as a server for those who dont want to manager their own and just want to play for free.
I'll make sure to let you all know when we are up and running.
also is there any new news on the WOTLK release I wiould love to get a stab at it especially in the early stages. You guys are great and I have alot of people that play on my server and love it (we have no way to connect to internet while on deployment) keep up the great work...those who got denyed WOTLK beta arn't to upset(weep weep)
That is alot of work to host/maintain a server where i'm sure alot of folks will just login a few times then give up
the normal experience rate modifier of blizz'z is just way too damn low to start any kind of a new toon
obviously would be nice to have a community to play with - esp with WOTLK coming out but ya running the server = $$ & Time
either way good luck and i'll try it if it starts
@oatman/colt45
if u dont already know
u can go to scriptdev2.com
that has everything u need to know about scripting
@Firane
@Firane
im pretty sure they know to go to SD2 for scripts.
they release there own repacks, of course there going to know to go there.
its like telling a 20yr old
"you know, you can go to the bathroom to take a shower."
lol, im sorry if i upset you, i've been on a spree of making fun of stupid things, lol.
sounds really good, espiecialy for those guys whov been at it for months trying to make private servers for months (like me :P) and having to join bullspit servers like Wowscape.
The only thing i could think of is do the northrend thing first then ADD it into this blizz server and make ur own custom quests there etc.
sorry about that double post up there.
But colt and oatman, that sounds like a great idea.
especially for all those people who need a good private server to play on, instead of those ones that nobody likes, like wowgasm, wowscape, etc...
so, ya , i hope you guys get this goin.
i should have mine up and on extremetop100 pretty soon, im hoping this weekend!
if u want, just click my name, it should take you to my site.
which i give almost full credit to you guys for the help and the tutorials and everything. lol. thanks.
the best of luck to you guys!
normal xp rate sucks
its no fun to play so much time to level ur chars.
also how about battlegrounds?
will that work?
Yea it is very pricely and unlike the other servers this one is for fun for Colt and I. We're not goign to be money greedy. This server is more of wanting to get involved and to step in to the server world. We just think it will be fun and we cannot wait to see how it will evolve in the future. So I can't wait to unveal this.
#John
Yes battlegrounds will work 99.99999% I've had some code modifications and they work magnificently!
Exactly what Oatman said! But (I'm not being a a greedy monkey or anything) we WILL need support, because it IS pricey, so donations help, but any extra money we get goes RIGHT BACK into the server (either to a back-up fund or for more realms, etc.)
Will it be a PVP-enabled server? I'm having the hardest time finding a non-PVP private server. Many advertise themselves as a "Normal" server and end up actually being a PVP server.
@mhs2011
ok ur a douchebag
they could easily go there and download everything without even looking at it
im saying that if they havent already they could figure out how to script some of the stuff by posting there
i think u might be drunk
Guys please be nice to each other. :)
We don't want any conflict.
#Lockewood
We were kinda leaning towards PVP but if more people prefer normal then we may do a normal server.
Fair enough, Oatman! Don't get me wrong, I love world PVP, but... I can only tolerate getting ganked so many times before it stops being fun, and having to always watch my back ups the stress level a little more than I like. ;)
Loving your private server releases, by the way. Keep up the good work.
@Firane
Dude your funny 'haha'
whoa, i wasnt looking for an insult here.
i was just stating the obvious, lol.
sorry if i upset you in any way...
Well, that's cool, and I wish you both the best of luck. I was just wondering how this is going to effect the publishing of the reaper mangos releases. Are you guys going to keep them going so everyone can play their own server, or are you going to stop that and focus all your coding and energy on this project? I hope it's the former, but I understand if it's the latter. Good luck either way!
I agree that it should be a normal server, PVP is just aggravating and anyone who wants it can just leave the flag enabled anyway. Definitely keeps the rates as per normal, the fact that it's takes a lot of work to gain 70 is really the point. What I hate about running my own server is not having a guild, so that I have to use workarounds etc for instances and I can't just run it legit.
after years and years of wow, if u honestly think the standard XP rate is a good thing u need your head checked
some of us quit wow so we could return to life, i'd like to try their new server but i cant lvl another toon to 70
playing a toon at 70 is the fun part, cuz u gear em up, run instances, do arenas etc, not grind on silly quests
u sound like a guy whose never raided past khaz when u want to relevel up again
Khaz is as far as I've gotten raiding wise but I've also leveled 2 other characters past 60 and a few more past 20. For me the questing is the best part, when you don't HAVE to do most things as a group. You leave WoW to get a life and yet want to get back to the stage of the game when raiding is pretty much all you do....
After running my private server for about 8 months now, this is what I found is the most fun.
Keep in mind that "blizz-like" means intentional speedbumps are set in place to extend subscription times of players. Making a private server like this and not amplifying some options makes very little sense to me personally. The largest, most obvious time wasters to me are world travel and experience rate.
Suggestions:
1. XP rate at 3x kill, 5x quest, 8x zone discovery. This might be a tad high for a public-private server but not by much. Maybe 2x kill, 3x quest, and 8x zone discover for the low end.
2. Leaving the AH Bot at price defaults, I've found the gold rate at x35 and loot at x9 to be very complimentary to the above XP rate. As you vendor trash everything you pickup, you will naturally have enough gold from Quest payout and loot to fairly gear your toon from 1 to 70.
3. Travel. Custom vendor at every racial starting zone to immediately have the option of buying an epic mount and 20 slot bags for free or...1 copper or whatever. Yes EPIC, not normal mount! You'll need the bags for the x9 loot.
4. AH bot. Thousands of items and short expiration time to cycle a lot of inventory (especially if there is a high population).
That's all I can think of for now...hope that helps.
Hi.
First off, thanks for the very good server releases. It's been a plessure using them.
Thou I would like to get one for freebsd :D.
The trunk thingy of mangos isn't really working for me...
I'm curious in what contry do you plan to place this server, I would love to join but. The server i'm currently playing on is located in texas and i have a high ping for like 280-450. That server is on a 100mbit connection and i my self have a 10/2mbit connection so i don't get this high lag.
Keep up the good work. :)
I think that a PvE server would do, (tho i personally like PvP) but I think a custom zone can be made that is 100% PvP, even in your faction base in that zone you are still flagged PvP!
@Sythus
Sorry but that would completly blow off our plans for this server, tho if we manage to raise enough money Im sure we coul make a Funserver.
Also about leveling to 70, most people quit regular WoW because they do not wish to pay $15 a month, when there are free-servers! We plan to be BLIZZ-LIKE, WITH custom features to make the game enjoyable (note: not all of the features will require level 70 anyway, some may be as low as level 20)!!
@Oatman, when you read this, I was wondering if you would like to let them know about the copy thingy, or if it is to early?
That's a great idea, Colt. Something along the lines of Lake Wintergrasp from WotLK. I'm trying to think what zone would have the most conflict, lore-wise. Most likely one with a battleground entrance in it, such as Ashenvale, Alterac, or Arathi.
@lockewood
Yes lore wise might be good but I think we might invent a little extra lore for it :P
@Colt45
I skimmed over the "blizzlike" comment at the beginning. Sorry.
Sorry to get into a epic discussion on this, but to me that's a good part of the function of having a private server.....to avoid the time wasting factors blizz put in to extend their profit.
Sorry but walking speed to everything until level 40 (now 30 with 2.4.3) isn't meant to enhance your gameplay experience guys....it's a purposeful intent by designers meant to slow you down so you spend more monthly.
Truncate the XP ramp, but please do something to make travel better for everyone.
If i'm forced to walk around then I'd rather spend my time on the real servers where I have a community of millions and when i'm finally done with it all I can sell my gold and account to someone.
If you improve travel...you'll get my paypal donations when it's live. That's a sincere promise, not a flippant comment....
test post...
...posting wasn't going through for me.
Sorry.
I skimmed over the "blizzlike" comment at the beginning. Sorry.
Anyways, walking speed to everything until level 40 (now 30 with 2.4.3) isn't meant to enhance your gameplay experience guys....it's a purposeful intent by designers meant to slow you down so you spend more monthly.
Truncate the XP ramp, but please do something to make travel better for everyone.
If i'm forced to walk around then I'd rather spend my time on the real servers where I have a community of millions and when i'm finally done with it all I can sell my gold and account to someone.
If you improve travel...you'll get my paypal donations when it's live. That's a sincere promise, not a flippant comment....
#sythus
I appreciate your support and comments. Seriously, when the community throws ideas at us it gives us a general idea on what everyone wants. So what were you thinking mounts at level 10 or something and only 1 gold for the training?
We want to make this somewhat blizz like where the principale of the game is not distorted but we also want to implement some custom features to make this game very fun. So keep throwing ideas at us.
Thanks. :D
#Colton
Yea thanks for reminding me. I am not going to go into full detail about this but we have a feature where we can copy your character from the real blizzard server to Atomic WoW. Its a really helpful gadget that reads the armory and transfers it over. I am not going into full detail just yet but when teh server gets closer to going live I'll introduce more features as time moves on.
Thanks for taking my input. Again sorry for the misdirected XP comments earlier.
A level 10 epic for 1g is a good idea. Maybe a super epic at 40 to do 150% speed and flying right at 60? The bump at 40 would further help the midlevel lul and constant zone hopping. Big bags being available immediately for 1 copper would be nice, or at least 12 slot or something.
The armory copy tool is awesome. Three cheers for that. :))
i think mounts should be held off until 20 because everything until then is very very localized, meaning little traveling is needed. lvl 20 would be a good time to introduce mounts. most people are still in their starting zone until lvl 10. ive found that lvl 20 is very quick to achieve and then the game starts slowing down.
also maybe have better mounts at every 10 levels from there?
reading through this thread and thinking, ive come to the idea that traveling is the most drawn out part of the game. i dont think people should be 'given' epic mounts when they start. it should be an achievement, something to unlock per say. but having quicker transportation available more often for cheap could keep more people interested and feel like theyve accomplished a little
# Oatman
About that gadget that copies over your stuff from the armory, How are u gonna verify that people don't copy over famous characters lets say for examples kungens gear?
or like A full brutal character on their server which no one else knows but is still in great gear?
Yes the mounts on lvl 20 is better.
Don't put the loot too high or it will just full up your bags fast, kill like 2 or 3 creatures and then have to go back to a vendor to sell everything will just make it take to much time.
What you can do is either make it so you start with an extra 6 slot bag or pay something like 35 copper to buy 1.
More ideas will come soon.
I love the servers you guys make, Keep it up.
Colt and I have real accounts and we'll have them go to the wow forums and prove it to us by sending us a PM.
So here's something I've been working on a bit in my own server. Cross faction quests. I don't like the idea of all the Cross faction battles while there are big nasty demons destroying outland and probably soon, Azeroth (from a story perspective I guess). In the end of Warcraft 3, both sides had to team up to defeat the burning legion, and now everyone thinks they can do it on their own while still fighting amongst each other.
So my idea is to have some repeatable quests to build rep with opposing factions. Maybe get cool anti-demon items as rewards for later quests or something. I currently have 1 quest in ratchet (currently only horde) where you take some herbs to a human standing outside Northwatch somewhere to help his sick child.
couldn't come up with any continuation ideas, but it's a start. If you like the idea send me an email to magus13@netzero.net and I'll see if i can send you the script i wrote for it.
Cant post anywere else so... Cant you just make a video showing people how to make a server instead of all the confusion? It would be a hell load easier.
@Syn The instructions have been near perfect for over a year now. Videos aren't necessary. If you can't follow clear written directions (i.e. a linear process), a video isn't going to help.
@Josh - Good call on the mounts. If it's not a lot of trouble for code, I would endorse the steadily improved mount speed every ten levels. Constant enhancements make the game much more bearable.
Also, I've noticed the game can be horribly glitchy if you move beyond x3 movement speed. I would not push a toon past that limit.
@Syn The instructions have been near perfect for over a year now. Videos aren't necessary. If you can't follow clear written directions (i.e. a linear process), a video isn't going to help.
@Josh - Good call on the mounts. If it's not a lot of trouble for code, I would endorse the steadily improved mount speed every ten levels. Constant enhancements make the game much more bearable.
Also, I've noticed the game can be horribly glitchy if you move beyond x3 movement speed. I would not push a toon past that limit.
Yes like I said in the post, we plan to test EVERY NEW FEATURE we add into the game to make sure they work to the fullest.
since we're on the topic of mounts, here's another interesting idea i had. What if all the mounts had different max speeds, turn radius, and % chance for knock off?
Not sure how doable this is, but like, a kodo would be fairly slow while nearly impossible to lose its rider. A raptor, on the other hand, would be really fast, but more easily lose its rider
what do you think?
@Sythus
In my server, I have found 2x xp to be a little excessive. It's fun for a while, but I believe I reached lvl 10 (or almost) before leaving the horde starting area. It made everything really really easy (oh wait, so did '.die'. lvl 12 annihilating Zul'Aman)
So I figure, if there were an xp adjustment, it should probably be:
on kill: 1.2
on quest: 1.5
explore: 1.5 - 2
that way it helps with the dragging of level gain, but is not as detrimental to the story process of the quests.
Also, the rate of rested xp gained can be increased as well, and if that is done, then everyone will get double xp faster anyway.
i agree with the horribad walking speed wow uses but if u set it to speed 2, that changes every concept of PVP/escort quests/arena
just allow mounts at lvl 20, and keep that inane x1 experience rate increased at least on event days
if u got all these bored ppl who want to lvl as slow as dirt, then they can, but let folks have like a monday or whatever day when exp rates are higher
@Bigmarky
Only Blizzard can do that. (mount level20)
@everyone that is blind.
Colt54 sad this ;
Blizzlike server (normal experience rates, drop rates, level cap set to seventy (70), etc.)
i think everyone can agree, rep grinding = illogical.
should bump up the reputation rate
i think that would be good that everyone can learn all primary skills.
Reaper,
I am currently running a server with your guys repack and my guys love it I have 300 members and it is a FFA server but you can team across factions (I Love PVP) normal EXP now uncontested zones. and for outlands I changed the mounts around a bit so they can only fly for 1 min at a time with 1 min cooldown till they can fly again...wrote a script that says your mount is getting extremely tired from the massive load he is carrying. when that happens the mount glides down till it reaches the ground. I want to reinstate World PVP like old BLACK rock days...well keep up the great work it makes me happy and all my members, and YES it is expensive to run a server so guys donate to help them out if they do it. Sorry one last thing PLEASE release beta WOTLK we all want bad I quit wow because of you guys I enjoy this alot more and I really want to see a death knight. Peace out guys
sorry I didn't mean "normal EXP now uncontested zones" I ment to say "normal EXP NO uncontested zones" and another thing if you give more then normal exp people will get bored with it and they miss alot of GREAT content.. some of the best instances are low lvl, that is why I am working on ALL instances to be heroic with custom gear to drop for example RFC is done and it drops 2 Pieces of custom gear for every class each piece of gear is for one spec like ICE spec for mage or demonolgy for locks and so on. I will be release the scripts for it all when I am done.
Great ideas guys!
Quoted: Magus13 "since we're on the topic of mounts, here's another interesting idea i had. What if all the mounts had different max speeds, turn radius, and % chance for knock off?
Not sure how doable this is, but like, a kodo would be fairly slow while nearly impossible to lose its rider. A raptor, on the other hand, would be really fast, but more easily lose its rider
what do you think?"
I LOVE IT!!! If its possible I will be sure to talk to Oatman about this!
Also I believe we can raise the exp rates on certain days (like maybe saturday because its the weekend and most people don't work, school, etc.)but post and tell me which days are best for you! As far as mounts go for lvl 20, I think 15 would be better, because thats when you have to leave and explore more, and it will only be a small speed increase if we do add it! Also for people who hate leveling, Im sure we will have some events ready for you that will blow your mind, but is fun for everyone EXAMPLE: say we have a scourge army assault Stormwind, there could be like 7 waves for each level set (11-20,21-30,etc.), then 1 big mixed one for all levels, and just to make sure those punk *** high levels don't steal kills from lower levels we cna prolly make it so that they cant attack the monsters unless they are in their level range (or make something lvl 80 elite pop out and rape them :P)!
Post your ideas!
I love the idea where weekends are like Ex extra days, cause it helps also when the kids are in school, or work. Helping to prevent skipping etc. Umm i LOVE the idea of mounts, roflmao. Mounts at level 15 be sick. Have to really modify the costs of the mounts then.
I love the idea of lower level mounts and possibly faster mounts. Would it be possible to modify the mounts' speed to be based on your riding skill instead of having it as a prerequisite and change riding skill to 5*player level (like max weapon skill). So you could make the speed increase given by your mount at 60% of riding skill (basically epic mount by level 34 and up to epic flying mount speed by 70).
Would it also be possible to implement faster flight paths or change it to teleportation to completely eliminate waiting for that gryphon ride?
High XP days are also a good idea for weekends.
I'd also like to see heroic pre TBC instances as mentioned above, with drops that provide gear tailored to cookie cutter PvE leveling specs.
Most classes gain new armor mail/plate and always takes time to get the drops to build a halfway good upgraded set of armor at 40.
If the XP goes faster than normal which it nearly always does on private servers, there is not enough time to build the new armor sets so people say forget that and just try to powerlevel through to 60 and upgrade to outlands armor.
I would think about throwing in a level 40 vendor that sells sets of level 40ish green armor mail/plate in particular at probably Gadgetzan.
Reaper, dude.. Send me an email. I cant find a way to contact you. Im kinda mad
@Sully
Um Reaper won't be on for a while but you may sned me an e-mail at Colt45-Musick@hotmail.com , if its important!
I'm beginning to uploadung the wotlk beta installer now it will be available abaout 12 o'clock (GMT +1). I will link to download whe finished...
Mine626
Hi Colt!
Do you have any updates on a 2.4.3 Reaper Repack?
I'm getting all excited, and I check the page frantically, but to no avail...
It just seems like forever! xD
On a side note, how is the server coming along?
I hear it will be Blizz-like, and that sounds promising, knowing the people behind-the-scenes will do a great job!
Good Luck Colt! Hope to hear from you soon! ;D
I wont upload the installer so just mail me at mine809@gmail.com if you want it
This is not exactly the place to ask about reaper-x mangos releases but yes UR1 has just been released!
Epic plan! But in my own mangos server, a lot of quests are seriously bugged on my own server i can work aroun dit by adding the followup to my log using GM commmands, any idea how this will be on your server?
Completly fixed on ours, I think that Oatman, me and a few other people will go through and test every quest, npc and stuff in the more popular areas first (then later as the server grows we will prolly test the others)
Did you get the Escort quests fixed too? I remember them not working properly since I started using Mangos. And people who were supposed to walk around didn't. For example, the Tauren in Southern Barrens (Gann, I think) just stands there; the ambassador group in Silvermoon doesn't walk around and talk; and the children in SW walk after each other instead of run and he is walking behind her instead of she chasing him. (hehe my wife found those 2 annoying and wanted to delete them, but I said no)
OH! more importantly, in the last few releases I have noticed that any custom items show up as question marks instead of their icons. Did you guys find a way to fix that as well?
We may, not 100% sure tho :P we still in testing!
I just wanted to let everyone know that I am planning on having my first Repack of WotLK Tonight!