Time for another Mangos release and as the title said, this is a clean compiled version of Mangos 4703 (without any custom patches) with Scriptdev2 Revision 156 and Unified Database 0.8.1 with Changesets 326 applied. Although you can also download the small version (minus the Unified Database), that perhaps might be useful to those who prefer to update their mangos core manually :)
While Reaper Mangos Mod 4703 (the custom version) can be found at that link (Note: if you’re not familiar enough with Mangos i’d suggest you to get this one instead)
So here are the steps :
Requirements :
1. Working MySQL Installation (if you have MySQL Installed automatically from another Repack, i’d suggest you to completely remove it unless you know how to configure it)
2. World of Warcraft Client version 2.2.3 with TBC Expansion Pack installed (because that’s what i’m using right now, so if you don’t have TBC installed and not using the latest 2.2.3 version, i can’t really help you)
3. Mangos Server :
UPDATE : Reaper Mangos 4875 has been released
IMPORTANT : If you’re upgrading from my 4651, you should download this updated batch file and overwrite the reaper-x-mangos.bat inside reaper-eazy-mangos directory with this one, btw i’d suggest you to get this one even if you’re not upgrading
Update : It seems that some people love the custom GM Island Vendor made by Silvermoon Project, so i decided to convert it so you can use it on this 4703 Release, but as a side note because there is specific item that only exists on the Silvermoon Database, if you see message on the Mangosd Window saying that some item can’t be found, you don’t need to worry about it (it doesn’t affect your gameplay)
Download GM Island NPC Custom Vendor (you just need to run the batch file included)
For advanced users only :
Optional :
This section is optional to those who want to create a public server
4. You need to know how to setup port forwarding from your router first, and also configure your firewall to allow the port specified in Mangosd.conf and Realmd.conf (if you use DSL Connection, you’ll need to know how to setup port forwarding first or else your friend won’t be able to connect to your server)
Also please read the Mangos FAQ too
Fresh Installation Steps :
1. Installing MySQL on Windows XP 32 Bit (you’ll need to have mysql installed first)
2. Extract DBC, Maps and VMaps from your World of Warcraft Client
3. Run the reaper-x-mangos.bat inside the reaper-eazy-mangos directory / folder, and you’ll see something like this, and now all you have to do is just write the full path to your mysql installation directory (where mysql.exe and mysqldump.exe can be found) ;)

4. Now you just need to choose option number 1 to install the database as shown on below image, and when prompted for your mysql root password, don’t forget to write the correct password … :)

5. After finished with the database installation, now you need to choose option number 4 (required, unless you know how to edit the mangosd.conf manually) to adjust the datadir and adjust the exp rate, and drop rate :)

6. Now after finished with all the above process, you’ll need to go inside your World of Warcraft installation directory (for example C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft) and then open the realmlist.wtf using notepad and …
replace :
set realmlist us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
set patchlist us.version.worldofwarcraft.com
with :
set realmlist 127.0.0.1
save it and close realmlist.wtf file
7. Now you just need to run mangosd.exe and realmd.exe from your mangos directory and then the next step would be creating username of course :D by typing create username password inside the mangosd window as shown on below image as an example … followed by typing setbc username 1 … so you can choose Blood Elv and Draenei

finally you just need to type setgm username 3 so you’ll have the GM Power, and … done !!! congrats … now all you have to do is just login using the username you’ve created before ;)
Optional :
If you want to change the server name into something else, you can use the reaper-x-mangos.bat to adjust it :)
Upgrading from Reaper Mangos 4651 :
First of all i’m really sorry that since there are many changes made to the database structure itself in Mangos, i can’t write instruction on how to upgrade your server from any version below 4651 (or it’ll be a very long post and i know that you don’t really want to read a long post) :P
So to those who are still using Mangos revision below 4651, you can contact me directly if you need help :)
and here are the step to those who are using Reaper Mangos 4651
1. Backup any custom data you’ve created before (such as custom vendors, custom weapon, custom armor, etc) using your mysql client … (i’m sure those who are creating their own custom stuff already have their own mysql client ready to be used) … but remember though if you’ve created custom vendor just make sure that it is compatible with this mangos version ;)
2. run reaper-x-mangos.bat inside the reaper-eazy-mangos directory and then choose option 99 to begin the upgrade process … and wait until it finished
3. Choose option 4 to reconfigure your mangosd.conf and no, don’t use the previous mangosd.conf because it has been changed
4. Done :)
Here’s some screenshot :
Riding Chocobo or Pecopeco perhaps :P

Blackfang Tarantula

Related Links :
Complete Mangos GM Commands
Creating Public WOW Server
Creating 2 Realmd in Mangos
Apache Web server Installation Guide
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ok i a have a server running but my friends cant connect and play but i can. do i need to have my ip address in mysql instead of 127.0.0.1? if so, how do ichange it to my ip?
# Reaper-X
Thanks for responding quickly yet again. :)
Thats exactly what I was looking for! Thanks! It worked exactly the way I was expecting it to. :)
Now I don’t have to do it the hard way… you know dumping all the info into the tables by hand every time I needed to “jump” a char. This make it so much faster, especially when more and more data is added to the characters. Just to “jump” my main would have taken me I’m guessing a good 30+ min to go through and copy and past all the data from one server table to the other. With this method I bet I could do it in about a minute or two. This saves a bunch of time since I know I’ll have to “jump” more than one char every time. Thanks Reaper-X, keep up the good work! :)
# Neirti
Are you doing fresh installation ? if so try reinstalling it again, because it seems the realmlist table is not properly created :)
# Error!
Actually that’s depend, if you have extracted the maps, vmaps, and dbc files from wow 2.2.3 .. and put it in different directory, then you don’t need to re-extract it anymore
but if you just extracted all the data files from wow 2.3.0 .. then you need to re-extract it again
btw .. if it’s for me, i always keep all the data files extracted from previous version especially if there’s a major upgrade going on (such as from 2.2.x series to 2.3.x or 2.1.x to 2.2.x) because you’ll never know if the new data format is compatible or not ;)
# solixes
Ah your lan ip is the ip address used on your lan card to connect to your router, for example :
Router : 192.168.1.1
LAN Card connected to router : 192.168.1.2
Public IP : 123.123.123.123
that mean you need to write 192.168.1.2 as your lan ip address in your router port forwarding configuration page :)
# Colin
Ah it seems that you just recently upgrade your wow version into 2.3.0 and currently it’s still not supported yet :( the only solution for now is to revert to 2.2.3 :)
# bamabam
If you still have the backup file and don’t mind sending me the backup, you can send it to my email address and i’ll convert it for you :)
# Zenn
Based from your description, you just need to type
writepdump outputfilename 9
and if you type the above command you’ll get a filename called outputfilename in your mangosd directory where mangosd.exe can be found
as for the restoring, actually you need to know your account id first (you can look for your id in realmd database under account table)
and assuming your account id is 123
you just need to write (continuing from the above command)
loadpdump outputfilename 123
and done :D
as for the 4703.bat file and 4651.bat .. actually there are differences between those two, because the 4703 tries to import the database into the characters database (by default if you didn’t answer no when prompted)
# Kage
Your welcome Kage, glad you like it :) .. as for paypal, no you don’t need to do that actually beside i don’t know how to withdraw money from paypal because of strict restriction placed on my country such as i can only withdraw from a US bank account in United States only (which obviously i don’t have it) lol
Reaper,
Thanks for publishing these howto’s. I’m looking to make some machinima with my cousins and brother.
So far no problems. Well, I had two problems.
The first was when I first ran mangosd it said it could not connect to my sql server; but I think that was because I changed my sql port to TCP 156 from default 3306 because I misread your post.
Next problem was that I had WoW 2.3. So I’m reverting atm to 2.2.3
Anyways, thanks for the detailed instructions on hosting a private WoW server. It is appreciated, and I’d give you a tip but you don’t have paypal setup in that way I’m sure.
# Reaper-X
Ok now I have a new question for you since you found out my last problem lol.
As a reminder of my last problem I left the p out of writepdump and loadpdump. I’ve messed with it a bit but it’s giving me an empty file named Program on my C drive. I created a test character called Pala and the GUID is 9. Could you give me an example of what I should be doing using this info so I know what to do. Thanks.
well, i used the new batch file and i updated successfully.
but, now when i log in with any account it does work, but there are no characters.
I logged into navicat and i see there is a new database slot so i took all the old data and copied it form my mangos databse to this new character database, now characters appear. But once i log in they have no bag in their bags slots and have no gear. I check to make sure i copied them right and i did. =/ sucks i duno what do do becides tell ppl on my server sorry lol.
#Reaper-x
Thanks for pointing out the p in writepdump and loadpdump I didn’t see that lol, I must have overlooked it.
I tried backing up my characters using the 4703 batch file but it was giving me an error… but I found the 4651 batch file to work for me lol.
So what I did was I backed up my characters using the 4651 batch file, then I updated mangos to 4703 using the 4703 batch file, and then I went back to the 4651 batch file and reloaded my characters. :)
I think that works the same way… at least I hope it does cause the 4703 batch file kept giving me errors when I tried to backup my characters.
i duno why i typed it like that…i mean im goign to just backup, update again, then restore the char data again (all using the updated bat file). and hope i didnt loose anything
no =( i used the old one, i didn’t noticed there was a new one untill after i started hving problems then read this article closer =( thanks for responding to my email, i got the realmd.exe working right cuz i fixed the port, problem but im still having the error when i load mangos.
since i’ve downloaded the new bat, im going to back, update again then restore, and pray i dont loose my char data. Though the reason im taking this gamble is because i used minimanager to make a sql file of all the accounts created and char info, so i guess if it screwes up i can load it with minimanager…thats IF the new mangos has the same tables. /crosses-fingers
Id just wait for you to get on msn but our time zones are so different lol Eastern USA here.
lol, yet another problem, whenever i run wow.exe using my real as realmlist, i get “unable to validate game version” error message but when i run any other realmlist, it works…what should i do? reinstall the mangos maybe?
Oh yea,and what is Local Ip address?Cos the port forwarding is required LOCAL IP ADDRESS,so is my Lan IP,Public IP or Router IP?Atm i am using Lan IP(192.168.1.1)for the Local IP address column..isit correct?
ah my bad 2.3… if you’ve solved that problem, been looking at previous replies and wondering if they workd n stuff
ok, perhaps one of my very last and maybe simplest questions…
i just downloaded the patch for 2.2.3
and i did all of this before, so would that effect everything?? would i have to re-download the maps, etc..? if so please let me know =)
Ok,in my router to forward port has port start and port end,so i need to use port start at 3724,port end at 8085?or just use 3724 on start and end port?2nd question is for my firewall setting,in my fire wall exception i already edit port for WOW and port number 3724 to allowed the other connection to connect to my server,so do i need to set another edit port for 8085 WOW in my firewall setting?As lke i lsaid previous i can connect to my game well,but my friend is stuck at the realm,he cant log in to realm,but he can access to username and password,but after log in just stuck at the realm…cant creater character…keep jumping out the realmlist,what should i do now?thx for the help :)
lol, ya im special like that, randomly add letters…lol reader…
2007-11-14 15:52:54 Using configuration file realmd.conf.
2007-11-14 15:52:54 MaNGOS realm daemon / Reaper Mangos 4703 SD2 156 0.9.0-SVN http://www.reaper-x.com (Win32)
2007-11-14 15:52:54 to stop.
2007-11-14 15:52:54 Database: 127.0.0.1;3306;mangos;mangos;realmd
2007-11-14 15:52:54 MySQL client library: 5.0.45
2007-11-14 15:52:54 MySQL server: 4.1.22-community-nt
2007-11-14 15:52:54 ERROR:SQL: SELECT `id`, `name`,`address`,`port`,`icon`,`color`,`timezone`,`allowedSecurityLevel`,`population` FROM `realmlist` WHERE `color` != ‘3′ ORDER BY `name`
2007-11-14 15:52:54 ERROR:query ERROR: Table ‘realmd.realmlist’ doesn’t exist
2007-11-14 15:52:54 ERROR:No valid realms specified.
still getting it :(
# Zenn
No problem actually ;) .. as for the 4651 and 4703, actually the backup file in 4703 is called backup-char instead of backup-db, btw actually you just need to use the reaper-x-mangos.bat included in 4703 (it’s better if you get the updated batch file especially if you’re going to upgrade)
as for writedump actually it should be called writepdump and loadpdump but i think it’s a lot better to dump the character table manually (though the above two command also does the same thing as well with the only differences it dumps the data only) :)
# Neirti
Are you doing fresh installation ? if so .. try choose the first option to reinstall the database again :)
# bamabam
Did you get the updated batch file and overwrite the old one included with 4703 ? because it’s important to get the updated batch file especially if you’re upgrading
# Elem
Unfortunately the 2.3.0 is still not supported yet but when it’s already supported of course i’m going to release the next update :)
the only solution for now is only to roll back to previous 2.2.3 patch ;)
says Error: Table ‘realmd.realmlist’ doesnt exist when i load up realmd.exe the other one works mangos.exe
help please
Sorry for the triple post… it seems like i solve my problems shortly after I post them on you thread lol.
I used your batch file from your Mangos 4651 to backup my characters and it worked! But for some reason when I tried it with your Mangos 4703 batch file it couldn’t find it the first time and the second time it gave me an error.
So just ignore my first two posts above since I already solved it and answered all of my own questions on my own lol, but thanks anyways. :)
Ok… I changed my IP from LAN IP to the loop-back IP and now the batch file can recognixe the mysqldump command… but now it give me error 1044.
Saying “Access denied for user ‘mangos’@'localhost’ to database ‘characters’ when selecting the database” and the it follows with:
–Connecting to localhost…
–Retrieving table structure for table account…
–Sending SELECT query…
–Retriving rows…
–Retriving table structure for table account_banned…
–Sending SELECT query…
–Retriving rows…
–Retriving table structure for table ip_banned…
–Sending SELECT query…
–Retriving rows…
–Retriving table structure for table localization…
–Sending SELECT query…
–Retriving rows…
–Retriving table structure for table realmcharacters…
–Sending SELECT query…
–Retriving rows…
–Retriving table structure for table realmlist…
–Sending SELECT query…
–Retriving rows…
–Disconnecting from local host…
Done
So… pretty much to save my characters all i have to do is copy the files for account, account_banned, ip_banned, localization, reamlcharacters, and realmlist? I know where to go to get to those files… but isn’t there more to it than just that to save the characters?
What this batch file just did is went through realmd and grabbed those files… doesn’t it have to go through mangos to grab the character and pet info as well?
Well I hope to here from you soon Reaper… hope you can tell my why I’m getting that error and if I’m right about the copying files to save my characters part. Thanks.
Ok I’m getting tired of this dump command not working. First of all I never had a problem with installing and setting up my server with Mangos 4651.
Since I didn’t have any problems I thought I’d transfer the characters one at a time from one server to another, same as “jumping”. I typed writedump and loaddump like you said to on the Mangos 4651 thread but it says “Unknown Command”.
I gave up on trying to jump my chars and thought that the dump command might work after this update to 4703. So when I go to backup my characters with the backup option in your batch file it says ” ‘mysqldump’is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.” Why does everything else work for me but not the dump commands?
If I could find out this problem it would help me solve my “Jumping” problem and my problem with backing up my characters. Thanks.
hey reaper the new patch is out ^^
will you release another version of mangos for us please?=P
ty ^^
PS: us=we XD
Hey reaper i’d really appreciate it if you could take a look at this http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/bamabam/Photo266.jpg
I get that every time i start up mangos.exe i did nothing different than the list time i upgraded, i did backup, upgrade, restore and now it’s doing this it looks like it’s trying to log on with the username mangos, i have no idea how to fix this. If you could help me that would be a real lifesaver, my servers been down for a day now im gonna loose players =(
The first boss of Karazhan is bugged.
and the event in karazhan where you get ‘onstage’ doesnt work =p (like with the big bad wolf &nd so)
hm…just update patch to 2.3.0….i cant connect to the server anymore….what should i do and update my mangosd?
Does the “Gurubashi Arena booty run” event work in this?
And please make a guide how to add custom portals :D
Alright. Thank you — I guess I will check back for more updates, here soon enough (I hope).
Have a good one; and thanks again, for everything! (Great guide…)
RE: btw i think for the next release i’m going to use update method so it doesn’t overwrite anything you’ve created before ;)
ooh – great news.
# Colin
Now that’s the first time ever i saw someone misstype Reaper to Reader rofl :P
As for your question, yes .. all you have to do is just choose option 1 and do the rest of fresh installation steps :D
# simon
sure you can always get the update from here
as for listing each value, you can see the sql file directly :)
btw i think for the next release i’m going to use update method so it doesn’t overwrite anything you’ve created before ;)
# Taellon
Have you installed Mysql first ? and make sure that it’s already running ?
as for mangos close itself automatically, try running option #4 in reaper-x-mangos.bat to create the mangosd.conf
# Death Scythe
No worries beside there’s no such thing as extremely unintelligent question ;) .. btw actually stealthed or not accessible might be good if you’ve configured your firewall to block access to that port (which mean your firewall works)
but if you’re going to run mangosd in default port (3724) and you see it’s stealthed, of course your friends won’t be able to connect to your server
as a side note, actually if you allow WoW Client to download update in the background, it’s using the same port too (blizzard update is using Peer to peer network like Torrent) and it use 3724 as it’s port which cause conflict with your realmd port configuration
to fix it :
1. open realmd.conf and change port 3724 into another value
2. ask your players, to change their realmlist.wtf file to :
set realmlist YOUR_SERVER_IP_OR_DNS:REALMD_PORT
that’s it :)
# vcain
You’ll need to edit the database directly :)
# Jared, William, or other who just updated to Patch 2.3.0
Unfortunately, this time you’ll need to wait for mangos to fully support it because some of the client files are changed and in this case it’s the dbc file (ItemExtendedCost.dbc from 13 Column to 14 Column)
As a side note, actually i have tried to made some changes so i can bypass that error message when reading the dbc file … and although it works and i was able to login and select my character, but right after i choose my character the WoW process crash to desktop and ask me to send the error report (obviously i’m not going to send it) :P .. and this happen even with just a newly created character
So i guess the only solution for now are :
If you’re playing on official server too :
- Create a duplicate copy of your entire WoW game installation directory
- Set the realmlist.wtf in one of the new directory you’ve created to the official server address
- And revert the copy on another directory to WoW 2.2.3
for more info on how to roll back wow patch :
http://www.reaper-x.com/2007/09/29/how-to-revert-to-previous-wow-patch/
# ChrisM
Unfortunately even if i was able to allow you to login to 2.3.0 server, it’s still need some database update too :)
Sorry – I am sure this gets asked a lot – But is there a webpage that lists the changes made to the database? Like which tables are altered etc?
I ask because I have been looking to change a lot of the specific data in some of the table (such as drop rates for quest items, as well as adding descriptions for many of the items.
However if each update would require that much of the database if wiped I would obviously be wasting my time doing so.
Thanks folks.
Ok forget the first comment, I found my windows disk and installed .net 1.1, now when I start mangosd.exe it appears and dissappears right away, and realmd.exe says
”
Using configuration file realmd.conf.
MaNGOS realm daemon / Reaper Mangos 4703 SD2 156 0.9.0-SVN http://www.reaper-x.c
om
to stop.
Database: 127.0.0.1;3306;mangos;mangos;realmd
MySQL client library: 5.0.45
Could not connect to MySQL Database at 127.0.0.1: Can’t connect to MySQL server
on ‘127.0.0.1′
Cannot connect to database
“
Thanks for the tip, this might sound extremely unintelligent, but what would I do if it is stealth ed? is that good or bad? how would I be able to change it?
Thank you
-Death Scythe
When I try to run both realmd.exe and mangosd.exe they both say This application has failed to start because MSVCR71.dll was not found. Re-insalling the application may fix this problem.
having problems with the teleport orb in undercity and silvermoon i enabled tbc and it wont teleport you to one or the other it just sends you 10 feet behind the orb how can i fix it
QUESTIONS FOR PATCH 2.3.0:
It is released, it released today for US and GB. Both of part 2 were done and so was the finishing files to install patch 2.3.0. I assure you that it is live. Now, how long will it take mangos??? I think a good week becasue of the guild banks unless they decide to skip this issue.
Yes will there be an update for the 2.3 patch that was released if not is there a way to make the server allow users with 2.3 patch on the server just not have any of the 2.3 features cause I would like to play on the private server and on real wow and i dont have enough hdd space to make 2 copies of wow and not update one. Great work on the server im using 4651
oops lol, * reaper
ok so reader, since i never made any chars because i had just finished installing 4651 when the new one came out, i should just run reaper-x-mangos.bat and select option number 1?
Siegelink,
I do not wish to revert to a previous patch–I was hoping that I could play on my private server with all of the new 2.3 implementations. While I appreciate your help, I look forward to some commentary from Reaper-X, himself.
I just e-mailed you with this problem probelm.
But i fixed my realmd.exe back to the way it was i remembered how i changed the port 3724 to 6060. anyway..
I didnt see the updated bat untill after i did the upgrade, do you think thats why its trying to access my database with the username mangos? I just cant get it to connect, will i have to run the update again?
I cant afford to loose my characer data =(
If you could email me back Brybam@gmail.com i would appreciate it so much, i was hopeing you could just remotely connect to see what i’m talking about that would really really be awesome.
I just dont know where to go to get it to use root and use my password.
last update i did from you i didnt have this problem =(
ChrisM,
It does not mather if they release a version of mangos for 2.3 because not even everything for 2.2 is still implemented.
If you by accident patched it up to 2.3, you can use this link but I can’t garantee if it still works:
http://www.reaper-x.com/2007/09/29/how-to-revert-to-previous-wow-patch/
hey, i keep getting this error message
c:\mangos\data/dbc/ItemExtendedCost.dbc (exist, but have 14 fields instead 13) Wrong client version DBC file?
any suggesions?
Is this release compatible with Patch 2.3 that was released today? Or can we expect another Mangos release here, soon enough? ;)
# Colin
ah it seems your gameobject_template table in mysql database get corrupted, i’d suggest you to backup your character first (if you already created backup before, move the previous backup first to another directory) .. and then reinstall the database again
# justin
Probably that’s one got messed up after the recent changes at the item database since the freeforall got introduced, btw did you set the drop rate to 100 or more ? because it’ll cause some problem with quest item not dropped if you set it to high (the safe value is 10 or below)
# Death Scythe
Did you previously change the realmd port to another value ? (default is 3724)
or as a test purpose, make sure that the realmd and mangos process already running then go to this page :
https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
and see whether port 3724 (or other port specified in your realmd.conf) is stealthed or not :)
# vcain
Unfortunately the NPC at GM island is custom made by Silvermoon database :( .. and since this one use UDB as it’s database (because there hasn’t been any update on silvermoon database) you won’t find it … unless you duplicate the creature used on the silvermoon database and move it over to this database
btw .. forgot to tell you this, if you don’t mind having message about creature equip something being displayed (because im just doing a quick and dirty database dump) :P .. i can upload the ported GM Island npc from silvermoon so you can use it on UDB :)
UPDATE: you can download the GM Island npc now .. but don’t forget that if you’re upgrading you should also download the updated batch file too ;)
# The Dude
Did you wait for the vmaps extraction to complete ? (it’s quite long actually to wait before it finished)
# solixes
1. Actually in order to do that, you’ll need to create your own custom weapon (i’m currently working on writing this) :)
2. disabling boss skill ? you can do that by editing the database directly and remove the script for that boss name
3. probably it’s not finished yet :)
1.Do i know how to set all the character skill to make to stronger like change the character attack power,change the character stat,for example the player can hitted the damage more that 10kup.i m trying to use but its cant,only can set up the hp or other.
2.May i know how to set the boss skill to make the boss without the spell when we fight him?
3.some of my skill are missing,like rogue POISON,trying to use but it wont work…
pls help
btw, i don’t have anything in the vmaps folder… which is bad
the mangos.exe ain’t finding any of the files, and than i can’t go further by typin in the box
Ya, bout that last comment… solved it =)
but seriously it is SO awesome i found u man
reaper the mangos are great got them working
after a couple of goofs on my part
was wondering about the silvermoon to undercity portal not working right and also how to populate gmisland all the mangos i have found dont have any venders on the island did i do something wrong
thanks again for your hard work
vcain
Thank you so much man, this is all happen alot =)
buuut, I’m having trouble with the fresh install
i press 1…enter password… than it comes up with
‘mysql’ is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file…
also is 127.0.0.1 supposed to be my IP, or just that?
Reaper,
I got it working, I had to uninstall everything, delete all SQL folders, and run a reg. cleaner to get rid of the registry. Then i started it all from scratch. It sucked, but I didn’t know what else to do. Hope this upgrade is beter than the last. Still love your guides, With out them, i still wouldn’t be able to get it up and running. Keep up the Great work.
Vile